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    Post by dfladermaus Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:53 pm

    But it might be a bigger mistake to infest a brand new tank with problems from the last mistake....just saying
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    Post by MxReEfEr92 Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:53 pm

    just cook the LR little by little. Take a 5gal bucket put live rock in it and fill it with new saltwater, with a heater and bubbler for like a month changing water evey 2 weeks then after the month just run RODI water in if for 2 weeks. Thats what I did in my friends tank and he has never had a problem with algea
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    Post by Sandman Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:11 pm

    dfladermaus wrote:But it might be a bigger mistake to infest a brand new tank with problems from the last mistake....just saying

    Very true... Maybe I should remove a few pieces that I want to use as base rock and let them dry, that way I can put them in the tank dry when I start the cycle.

    The others I will dry out, then slowly add them to the system. My wife is tired of having a trash can on our patio with rock in it...
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    Post by Sandman Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:13 pm

    coryg wrote:just cook the LR little by little. Take a 5gal bucket put live rock in it and fill it with new saltwater, with a heater and bubbler for like a month changing water evey 2 weeks then after the month just run RODI water in if for 2 weeks. Thats what I did in my friends tank and he has never had a problem with algea

    Wouldn't running straight RODI kill off any life? Algae included?

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    Post by MxReEfEr92 Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:25 pm

    Yea but I thought you were ok with starting with non live rock it was just the cost. IMO starting fresh and 100% dead and letting your tank cycle is the best way.
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    Post by Sandman Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:27 pm

    I have a lot of life in my rocks that I dont want to lose. But.. I would rather not deal with bubble algae in a tank I can barely reach into.
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    Post by Sandman Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:47 pm

    Quick question... Will a short bath in a heavily saturated vinegar/water bath kill bubble algae off powerheads?

    I had a powerhead go out and I need to use one from my 65 elsewhere and dont want to spread the algae.


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    Post by MxReEfEr92 Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:50 pm

    Exactly, think about all the trouble you could potentially save yourself from. Even tho their is no guarantee you wont get algae after all is said and done. Just on paper it looks more promising.
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    Post by MxReEfEr92 Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:54 pm

    OR you could put your ive rock in and just stock a heavy CUC and just keep the lights off while running your protien skimmer full force
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    Post by sisterlimonpot Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:02 am

    maybe Paul can enlighten us on H2O2 aka hydrogen peroxide to kill off unwanted algae.
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    Post by MxReEfEr92 Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:08 am

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    Post by Sandman Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:59 am

    So if have the plumbing cut, in place, and ready to be glued. Once I get these braced I will glue and fill with tap water for the water test. Very Happy
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    The 1" pipe in the middle is the return line. I am going to use flex hose to attach to my return pump.
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    Post by reefer87 Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:14 am

    Looks good. I can't wait to see it up and running.
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    Post by Sandman Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:44 am

    Thanks, I am very excited. I pick up the sand on Wednesday, and lights should be here sometime next week hopefully.
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    Post by jemw Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:52 am

    Looking good. Great planning. Just an observation on my part of past experience with a LFS. If you are bringing livestock from the tank with bubble algae, you will most likely bring the spores from the water as well.
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    Post by Sandman Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:02 am

    jemw wrote:Looking good. Great planning. Just an observation on my part of past experience with a LFS. If you are bringing livestock from the tank with bubble algae, you will most likely bring the spores from the water as well.

    Thanks!

    As for the water, I will be starting will all new water and letting the tank cycle for 4 weeks before I bring anything over. Gonna be a long month!
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    Post by sisterlimonpot Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:30 am

    Take some buckets over to DW's house and have him start filling them as well.
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    Post by Sandman Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:42 am

    NEW PICS!! This is the new canopy for the stand. Sisterlimonpot did a fantastic job on this!!
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    Post by sisterlimonpot Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:45 am

    Here's what I have

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    Post by nikecivic Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:49 am

    what type of wood did you use? And what did you seal it with?
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    Post by dwolson2 Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:49 am

    Very nice Jimmy!
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    Post by sisterlimonpot Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:53 am

    It's not done yet, Sandman is going to paint it to match the existing stand.
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    Post by Sandman Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:59 am

    nikecivic wrote:what type of wood did you use? And what did you seal it with?

    3/4" Sandeply hardwood, and birch for the trim. The decrorative trim, not sure.
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    Post by MxReEfEr92 Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:52 am

    ohh ohhh ohh me next! me next!
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    Post by Sandman Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:05 am

    The plumbing is complete and ready for a leak test!
    As you can see, I added 3 manifolds; one for water change, one for a carbon reactor, and one for GFO.
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    Post by bvysochin Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:51 pm

    Might want to rethink your manifold design..
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    Post by sisterlimonpot Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:57 pm

    it kind of looks like the shut offs in the wrong spots. do you have three ball valves in line of each other or do you have Ts connected end to end then the ball valves?
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    Post by sisterlimonpot Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:59 pm

    it's very hard to tell from the picture. after looking at it some more it may be right...
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    Post by Sandman Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:29 am

    The picture is very deceiving, and after looking at it again I understand the confusion. I have each ball valve on a T, not in a line. They just happen to be open. Might be easier to see with this picture.
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    Post by Sandman Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:26 am

    Just to clear up any confusion as to how I plumbed my manifold.
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    All gravy here!
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    Post by sisterlimonpot Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:57 am

    for the one that you're using for water changes, is it pumping water out? if so wouldn't you want another ball valve to conveniently close off the water supply going to the tank? that way you don't have to reset the valves that are restricting it back into the tank.
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    Post by Sandman Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:30 am

    Good point.. I figure if I don't get enough pressure by opening the valve, then I can always close off the fuge valve as a last resort. I believe I will have plenty of pressure to pump water out though. I am going to test it out tomorrow and will report back.
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    Post by sisterlimonpot Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:23 am

    true... you're going to fill it soon? yeah!!!
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    Post by Sandman Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:27 pm

    Leak test today, and I'm picking up 2 55g barrels today so I can start making water tomorrow!! Hope all goes as planned with the leak test today.
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    Post by nikecivic Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:41 pm

    are you going to get the free NSW at UCSB?
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    Post by sisterlimonpot Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:28 pm

    have you nailed down a time to paint the doors and hood?
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    Post by Sandman Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:00 pm

    nikecivic wrote:are you going to get the free NSW at UCSB?

    I'm not, just going to make water non stop for the next week, except at night. Tonight I am filling the tank with tap water though.
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    Post by Sandman Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:02 pm

    sisterlimonpot wrote:have you nailed down a time to paint the doors and hood?

    Yes. I am going to prime in throughout the week as I have time, then I will finish painting next weekend. I can't wait to see it finished!!
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    Post by sisterlimonpot Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:56 pm

    Sandman wrote:
    sisterlimonpot wrote:have you nailed down a time to paint the doors and hood?

    Yes. I am going to prime in throughout the week as I have time, then I will finish painting next weekend. I can't wait to see it finished!!
    you and me both.
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    Post by Sandman Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:30 pm

    So the plumbing failed the leak test. One of my return lines is leaking at the bulkhead/90 elbow junction. The leak is very small, so I am going to remove, re-tape, and test again. If it doesnt fix the problem I'll replace the bulkhead.
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    Post by Sandman Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:41 pm

    Leak test has concluded, and RODI water is flowing (very slowly). The fill-up begins!!
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    Post by dwolson2 Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:46 pm

    awesome!
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    Post by MxReEfEr92 Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:08 am

    Question. what kind of sand are your using again?
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    Post by Sandman Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:15 am

    It's called Natures Ocean #1. Look up "live sand petco.". They sell it for 24.99 a bag, which is the cheapest I have seen.

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    Post by Sandman Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:16 am

    The tank is up and running! I will post picture tonight.
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    Post by Sandman Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:13 am

    Stand painted and in place!
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    The rock work is still a work in progress. The left side is complete. I am waiting until I take down the 60g to finish the right side.
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    Post by Sandman Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:15 am

    I built a skimmer stand out of acrylic to raise the skimmer to the correct height.
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    Post by Sandman Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:21 am

    Ok, so I received my lights on Tuesday of this week. I put 3 AI Sol Blue over my tank.
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    In order to mount the 60" rail, I had to install 2 2x3 studs and drill through the rail. Oddly enough, the AI rails do not come with factory drilled holes to mount in this manner.
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    Lights in place, I still need to do something with the wires.

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    Post by Sandman Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:25 am

    I am very pleased with how this turned out, now the waiting begins...
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    Post by MxReEfEr92 Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:55 am

    so jealous...

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