Clownfish14's 90 gallon of sexyness

I have to agree. I had one of these to address an out of control flat worm problem. It took care of them within 2 days. Was a model citizen (or so I thought) until I noticed less feather dusters and small starfish. Then I noticed my cleaner shrimp was gone and I started getting dead shells. Now I guess there could have been another predator - but the issues started when I put him in. Now the biggest problem was getting him out once he was in. Had to remove almost all of the rock and corner him on me side of the tank.

IMO - there are lots of other wrasses that do well in a reef tan. I like the whip fin or the McCoskers. But hey - it is your tank and wo knows, maybe this one will be good.

Hmm thats really weird. I read a ton about them and everyone said they were good to go and then i hear that there not all of a sudden. Not sure what to do now lol. Are you keeping him well fed? I read it needs to be about 3 times a day

Don't have him anymore. I feed once a day right now and all fish seem to be happy and well adjusted.

Like I said, mine could have been a bad one, yours could be a great one. Is there something about this wrasse that you have always wanted one? You could always through in a shrimp and see how he reacts before putting him in your display. That's why hospital tanks are good.

go look at jimmies tank ask him why there are all those dead turbo snail shells... You need to see first hand what a fish does. You can read all day how people claim things are, but you need to see it to believe it. I would personally hate to see you put the fish in your tank and then you regret it. You will see when jimmy reads this tomorrow he will chime in.

coryg wrote:go look at jimmies tank ask him why there are all those dead turbo snail shells... You need to see first hand what a fish does. You can read all day how people claim things are, but you need to see it to believe it. I would personally hate to see you put the fish in your tank and then you regret it. You will see when jimmy reads this tomorrow he will chime in.

Just alked to jimmy so i know what his does. Its not that i want this specific wrasse i just wanted somthing that eats flatworms just in case and this seemed like the best way to go.

I would throw in a peppermint shrimp and a turbo snail the see what he dose

Ok i will see what i can do

clownfish14 wrote:

dwolson2 wrote:Isn't there special care for sea fans?

Not quite sure what you mean by this

my phone sometimes misses words...

No there is no "special" care that i know about you just have to feed it some phytonevery once in a while

They just cant be exposed to air.

Yup

Cory i was looking for the wrasse on live aquaria and he is not even on there. Can you send me the link to the discription you were talking about?

Thats not it is it?

Oh mabey it is. Ok thanks

Im positive it is the color varies on where they are from but thats it.

Working on setting up a lightining storm mode on my dads tank using the apex and his lights!

are both sets of lights on 2 separate vdms?

Like mine and his? Ya they are

ok i need some help so right now i have three profiles all running different variations of the lightning which i created using the osc. section. my problem is this. i have one virtual outlet labeled "Storm" then i have a command in my dads white VDM slot so that when i turn on the Storm outlet it starts the storm1 profile. what i can figure out is how to make all 3 profiles start going when that outlet is turned on rich now this is my code and for some reason it is only running the last one "storm3". any ideas?

Set off
If Outlet Storm = ON Then storm1
If Outlet Storm = ON Then storm2
If Outlet Storm = ON Then storm3

you got me on this one...

clownfish14 wrote:ok i need some help so right now i have three profiles all running different variations of the lightning which i created using the osc. section. my problem is this. i have one virtual outlet labeled "Storm" then i have a command in my dads white VDM slot so that when i turn on the Storm outlet it starts the storm1 profile. what i can figure out is how to make all 3 profiles start going when that outlet is turned on rich now this is my code and for some reason it is only running the last one "storm3". any ideas?

Set off
If Outlet Storm = ON Then storm1
If Outlet Storm = ON Then storm2
If Outlet Storm = ON Then storm3

The reason only storm3 is working is because it starts at the top and the last line has the most priority, so how the apex reads it is
Ok outlet storm is on so I am going to run storm1
wait, I need to run storm two cause that has a higher priority
wait, I need to run storm2 cause that has the higher priority
wait, I need to work on the MASVC Frag event cause that had the highest priority...not lightning on my tank....

Ok so how do i tell it to turn on all three at the same priority?

you don't post up all of your code and let me look at it.

Ok or you could just look at my reeftronics thing. Cant you see the code on there?

laaaaazy

Its easier for both of us

Here you go:
Apex Name: apex

Firmware: 4.12_5A12
Listing generated: 10/10/2012 07:21:05

PROGRAM
[ N_uv ] ( base_Var1 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Set OFF
If Time 08:00 to 18:00 Then Nuv_up
If Time 18:00 to 22:00 Then Nuv_dn

[ N_Red ] ( base_Var2 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Left/Right Arrows
Program:
Set OFF
If Time 09:00 to 18:00 Then Nred_up
If Time 18:00 to 21:00 Then Nred_dn

[ D_UV ] ( base_Var3 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Set OFF
If Time 08:00 to 18:00 Then Duv_up
If Time 18:00 to 22:00 Then Duv_dn

[ D_Green ] ( base_Var4 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Left/Right Arrows
Program:
Set OFF
If Time 09:00 to 18:00 Then Dg_up
If Time 18:00 to 21:00 Then Dg_dn

[ SndAlm_I6 ] ( base_Alarm )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Sound A
Program:
Set OFF

[ SndWrn_I7 ] ( base_Warn )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Sound B
Program:
Set OFF

[ EmailAlm_I5 ] ( base_email )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Email
Program:
Set OFF
If Temp > 82.0 Then ON
If Temp < 75.0 Then ON

[ Sump_8_1 ] ( 3_1 )
Program Type: Light
Display Icon: Light A
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 08:00 to 20:00 Then ON
If Temp > 82.0 Then OFF
Min Time 030:00 Then OFF

[ Koralia1 ] ( 3_2 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Light B
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set ON

[ Mp10 ] ( 3_3 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Fallback ON
Set ON

[ N_redPWR ] ( 3_4 )
Program Type: Light
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Fallback ON
Set OFF
If Time 06:00 to 22:00 Then ON
If Temp > 82.0 Then OFF
Min Time 005:00 Then OFF

[ Heater_3_5 ] ( 3_5 )
Program Type: Heater
Display Icon: Thermometer
Program:
Fallback OFF
If Temp < 77.0 Then ON
If Temp > 78.0 Then OFF

[ N_wavebox ] ( 3_6 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set ON

[ N_koralia ] ( 3_7 )
Program Type: Pump
Display Icon: Left/Right Arrows
Program:
Fallback OFF
OSC 000:05/000:30/000:30 Then ON
If FeedA 005 Then OFF

[ N_leds ] ( 3_8 )
Program Type: Light
Display Icon: Light A
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 00:00 to 00:00 Then ON
If Temp > 82.0 Then OFF
Min Time 000:30 Then OFF

[ D_red ] ( 5_1 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Set OFF
If Time 09:00 to 18:00 Then Dred_up
If Time 18:00 to 21:00 Then Dred_dn

[ D_HN ] ( 5_2 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Left/Right Arrows
Program:
Set OFF
If Time 11:00 to 18:00 Then Dhn_up
If Time 18:00 to 19:00 Then Dhn_dn

[ D_white ] ( 5_3 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 09:00 to 18:00 Then Dw_up
If Time 18:00 to 21:00 Then Dw_dn
If Outlet Storm = ON Then storm1

[ D_blue ] ( 5_4 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Left/Right Arrows
Program:
Set OFF
If Time 08:00 to 18:00 Then Dblue_up
If Time 18:00 to 22:00 Then Dblue_dn

[ BluLED_5_5 ] ( 5_5 )
Program Type: Light
Display Icon: Light A
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 08:00 to 20:00 Then ON
If Temp > 82.0 Then OFF
Min Time 030:00 Then OFF

[ WhtLED_5_6 ] ( 5_6 )
Program Type: Light
Display Icon: Light B
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 08:30 to 19:30 Then ON
If Temp > 82.0 Then OFF
Min Time 030:00 Then OFF

[ Skimmer ] ( 6_1 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Light A
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set ON
If Outlet Return = OFF Then OFF
Min Time 015:00 Then OFF

[ Return ] ( 6_2 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Light B
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set ON

[ Refug_pump ] ( 6_3 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Set ON

[ Fuge_light ] ( 6_4 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 20:00 to 08:00 Then ON
If Temp > 82.0 Then OFF
Min Time 005:00 Then OFF

[ Heater ] ( 6_5 )
Program Type: Heater
Display Icon: Thermometer
Program:
Fallback OFF
If Tmpx4 < 77.7 Then ON
If Tmpx4 > 78.3 Then OFF

[ Kalk_pump ] ( 6_6 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Thermometer
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 07:00 to 07:10 Then ON
If Time 15:00 to 15:05 Then ON
If Temp > 83.0 Then OFF
Min Time 000:10 Then OFF

[ ATO ] ( 6_7 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Left/Right Arrows
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set ON

[ Gfo/carbon ] ( 6_8 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Left/Right Arrows
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set ON

[ D_Leds ] ( 7_1 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Light A
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set ON

[ D_Fan ] ( 7_2 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Light B
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 05:00 to 22:30 Then ON
If Outlet D_Leds = OFF Then OFF

[ D_empty ] ( 7_3 )
Program Type: Pump
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Fallback ON
OSC 000:00/005:00/005:00 Then ON
If FeedA 000 Then OFF

[ D_empty1 ] ( 7_4 )
Program Type: Pump
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Fallback ON
OSC 005:00/005:00/000:00 Then ON
If FeedA 000 Then OFF

[ N_green ] ( 8_1 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Set OFF
If Time 09:00 to 18:00 Then Ng_up
If Time 18:00 to 21:00 Then Ng_dn

[ N_blue ] ( 8_2 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Left/Right Arrows
Program:
Set OFF
If Time 08:00 to 18:00 Then Nblue_up
If Time 18:00 to 22:00 Then Nblue_dn

[ N_highnoon ] ( 8_3 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Set OFF
If Time 11:00 to 18:00 Then Nhn_up
If Time 18:00 to 19:00 Then Nhn_dn

[ N_white ] ( 8_4 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Left/Right Arrows
Program:
Set OFF
If Time 09:00 to 18:00 Then Nw_up
If Time 18:00 to 21:00 Then Nw_dn

[ BluLED_8_5 ] ( 8_5 )
Program Type: Light
Display Icon: Light A
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 08:00 to 20:00 Then ON
If Temp > 82.0 Then OFF
Min Time 030:00 Then OFF

[ WhtLED_8_6 ] ( 8_6 )
Program Type: Light
Display Icon: Light B
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 08:30 to 19:30 Then ON
If Temp > 82.0 Then OFF
Min Time 030:00 Then OFF

[ Storm ] ( Cntl:A1 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Light A
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF

[ Virtual_emt ] ( Cntl:A2 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Light B
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set ON

[ Virt_empty ] ( Cntl:A3 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Fallback ON
Set ON

[ Virt_empt1 ] ( Cntl:A4 )
Program Type: Pump
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Fallback ON
OSC 005:00/005:00/000:00 Then ON
If FeedA 000 Then OFF



PROFILES

[ Dblue_up ] ( PF1 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 240
Start Intensity: 0
End Intensity: 40
[ Duv_up ] ( PF2 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 240
Start Intensity: 0
End Intensity: 40
[ Dw_up ] ( PF3 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 0
End Intensity: 40
[ Dred_up ] ( PF4 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 0
End Intensity: 40
[ Dg_up ] ( PF5 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 0
End Intensity: 40
[ Dhn_up ] ( PF6 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 60
Start Intensity: 0
End Intensity: 40
[ Dhn_dn ] ( PF7 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 60
Start Intensity: 40
End Intensity: 0
[ Dg_dn ] ( PF8 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 40
End Intensity: 0
[ Dred_dn ] ( PF9 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 40
End Intensity: 0
[ Dw_dn ] ( PF10 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 40
End Intensity: 0
[ Dblue_dn ] ( PF11 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 240
Start Intensity: 40
End Intensity: 0
[ Duv_dn ] ( PF12 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 240
Start Intensity: 40
End Intensity: 0
[ Nblue_up ] ( PF13 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 240
Start Intensity: 0
End Intensity: 60
[ Nuv_up ] ( PF14 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 240
Start Intensity: 0
End Intensity: 60
[ Nw_up ] ( PF15 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 0
End Intensity: 50
[ Nred_up ] ( PF16 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 0
End Intensity: 50
[ Ng_up ] ( PF17 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 0
End Intensity: 50
[ Nhn_up ] ( PF18 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 240
Start Intensity: 30
End Intensity: 50
[ Nhn_dn ] ( PF19 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 60
Start Intensity: 50
End Intensity: 0
[ Ng_dn ] ( PF20 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 50
End Intensity: 0
[ Nred_dn ] ( PF21 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 50
End Intensity: 0
[ Nw_dn ] ( PF22 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 180
Start Intensity: 50
End Intensity: 0
[ Nuv_dn ] ( PF23 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 240
Start Intensity: 60
End Intensity: 0
[ Nblue_dn ] ( PF24 )
Type: Ramp
Ramp Time: 240
Start Intensity: 60
End Intensity: 0
[ storm1 ] ( PF25 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Enable
Initial Off Time: 50
On Time: 1
Off Time: 50
Minimum Intensity: 15
Maximum Intensity: 50
[ storm2 ] ( PF26 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Enable
Initial Off Time: 70
On Time: 1
Off Time: 70
Minimum Intensity: 15
Maximum Intensity: 75
[ storm3 ] ( PF27 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Enable
Initial Off Time: 90
On Time: 1
Off Time: 90
Minimum Intensity: 15
Maximum Intensity: 100
[ PF28 ] ( PF28 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Disable
Initial Off Time: 1
On Time: 1
Off Time: 1
Minimum Intensity: 0
Maximum Intensity: 100
[ PF29 ] ( PF29 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Disable
Initial Off Time: 1
On Time: 1
Off Time: 1
Minimum Intensity: 0
Maximum Intensity: 100
[ PF30 ] ( PF30 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Disable
Initial Off Time: 1
On Time: 1
Off Time: 1
Minimum Intensity: 0
Maximum Intensity: 100
[ PF31 ] ( PF31 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Disable
Initial Off Time: 1
On Time: 1
Off Time: 1
Minimum Intensity: 0
Maximum Intensity: 100
[ PF32 ] ( PF32 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Disable
Initial Off Time: 1
On Time: 1
Off Time: 1
Minimum Intensity: 0
Maximum Intensity: 100

Now out of that, what is pertaining to what you want to do. I don't want to learn your system just help you with one part.

This outlet:
[ D_white ] ( 5_3 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 09:00 to 18:00 Then Dw_up
If Time 18:00 to 21:00 Then Dw_dn
If Outlet Storm = ON Then storm1

This outlet:

[ Storm ] ( Cntl:A1 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Light A
Program:
Fallback OFF

These 3 profiles:

[ storm1 ] ( PF25 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Enable
Initial Off Time: 50
On Time: 1
Off Time: 50
Minimum Intensity: 15
Maximum Intensity: 50

[ storm2 ] ( PF26 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Enable
Initial Off Time: 70
On Time: 1
Off Time: 70
Minimum Intensity: 15
Maximum Intensity: 75

[ storm3 ] ( PF27 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Enable
Initial Off Time: 90
On Time: 1
Off Time: 90
Minimum Intensity: 15
Maximum Intensity: 100

Whatcha think?

clownfish14 wrote:This outlet:
[ D_white ] ( 5_3 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Up/Down Arrows
Program:
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 09:00 to 18:00 Then Dw_up
If Time 18:00 to 21:00 Then Dw_dn
If Outlet Storm = ON Then storm1

This is fine

clownfish14 wrote:
This outlet:

[ Storm ] ( Cntl:A1 )
Program Type: Advanced
Display Icon: Light A
Program:
Fallback OFF

this is an incomplete program. according to this, it has fallback off. You need to change this one.

clownfish14 wrote:
These 3 profiles:

[ storm1 ] ( PF25 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Enable
Initial Off Time: 50
On Time: 1
Off Time: 50
Minimum Intensity: 15
Maximum Intensity: 50

[ storm2 ] ( PF26 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Enable
Initial Off Time: 70
On Time: 1
Off Time: 70
Minimum Intensity: 15
Maximum Intensity: 75

[ storm3 ] ( PF27 )
Type: Pump
Synchronize: Disable
Divide By 10: Enable
Initial Off Time: 90
On Time: 1
Off Time: 90
Minimum Intensity: 15
Maximum Intensity: 100

These are pump settings, you need ot be running light settings. They should ramp up and down.

+1 on pump settings

Ok good

When i copied it i disnt coppy a "set off" at the bottom. Does that fix it?

The ramp section does not allow for a divide by 10 option for the timming. Meaning that the fastest flsh of light i could get would be 1 minute. The pump program allows me to get a flash of 1/10 of a second. They are basically the same thing anyways. All they do is send out a 0 - 10v signal telling the pump/driver how fast or high to turn on.

Light ≠ pump

Right but the program that turns them up and down from the apex is the same thing. Its not like i am sending more power or anything

did you try switching? what happened? you could ask Lawrence he has a setup on his apex for his diy leds.

there is a profile for lightning

yes but that is for the AIs that basically does not do anything but send a signal to the AI to tell it to start flashing lights the apex does not control when they flash. my question is how do i get it so when i turn on the storm outlet all 3 of the profiles run under my dads white outlet? like you said derrick rich now the one after is canceling out the previous one so that only the "storm3" profile ends up running. is there a way to code it where all 3 run at the same time?

not that I know of. Let me sit and think about it for a few. What is the goal? run one then another then another program? or all at the same time? You could do and OSC command and run two OSC commands with different intensities. try that and see what happens. The two OSC's might overlap in varying times.

thats the plan the 3 profiles that i have are all OSCs my plan was to have all 3 running at the same time at different brightnesses/times to create what seems like a random lightning storm.

derrick help me! i can't find anything on this anywhere

I'm at work with no access to programming, figure it out yourself or wait....

Fine! Ill wait...

has this been figured out?

Nope.

Dang. And I thought the reef angel was hard to program... Can't help here but curious to see how it runs when set up.

Haha ya it should be pretty cool if i can get it to work

Here we go so i ended up just splitting the 3 profiles between the whites, the high noons, and the blue. It looks better this way anyways lol:
https://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu338/clownfish14/10-7-12/78E1F94D-62EA-446B-B480-19BD0D4B60C4-3497-00000295CEE84CC5.mp4

Looks cool but Its too bright I would just run the blues and have all the different high noons flashing as well as the royal blues.